The final essays of the final year of the final MA
Book Art Course at Camberwell - the title list as ever is eclectic and
demonstrates the multi-disciplinary nature of the course. It was always student
focused before it was a thing! Helping the individual student on the course to
first identify then celebrate and nurture their interests.
I post them all here to give an indication of how
the course has evolved through the years. The MA was highly flexible - often
pragmatically through the challenge of resources, money, space or/and equipment
but it was always able to find a theoretical space, to evolve into a new form whilst
retaining its integrity, responding to current contemporary issues to retain
relevance. enjoy.
Titles
1996
PERSONAL
STATEMENT
Notes
and Fragments: The documentation of the development of an idea
Books:
Public or Private objects?
WRITTEN
STATEMENT
written
statement
INTERVIEWED
IN THE BOOK ART STUDIO
WRITTEN
STATEMENT
STATEMENT
Written
Statement
A
METAMORPHOSIS AN ADVENTURE INTO BOOKARTS
1997
FRAGMENTS
– PROCESS – SENSORY IMPRESSIONS
-
JOURNEY WITH UNPREDICTABLE END -
An
Unprecedented Event
Language
as Art, Typography as Language
On
Medieval Manuscripts
ABOUT
BOOK ARTS
SEQUENTIAL
ART or (The invention that is Art)
MA BOOK
ARTS
A
Projection. A theory
Book arts,
Architecture, Space, Place, Paper and me
Mid-century
Disjunction: the Fate of Early Modern Typography and the Evolution of Artists’
Books As Traced In the Work of Johanna Drucker
books as
visual form for communication
1998
Memories
of my food in the 1970’s, 1980’s
ESSAY:
ART AND ECOLOGY
Low
Culture, High Art
DOCUMENTING
THE CITY
Time
Not At
Home: in search of green ornaments – a collected narrative
Halfway
to Inevitability
The
Booked Block
1999
Judging
A Book by it’s Cover: Questions of Legitimisation, Aesthetics, and Audience. A
Catalogue Essay.
MA Book
Arts
ROCK
& ROLL an archive
- Found
Words – The use of found words and objects in Book Art
Trivial
Tales About Nothing At All
STRUCTURE
GIVER OF
LIFE about rituals and metaphors, about domestic and the feminine in life and
art.
Aspects
of Exhibitions and Collections
UNDERGROUND
Thinking
about reading
The
narrative of London
2000
Silent
Books
Towards
Process as the work and Reading as the practice
Natural
Mystic & Book
Personal
Experience and the Book Outcome
IF YOU
WOULD LIVE HERE YOU WOULD BE HOME NOW
(Space
is everywhere open…We are in this place)
NARRATIVE
AND CONCRETE SYSTEMS IN BOOK ARTS; through the book structure and content
The
book: a psychosocial metaphor
SQUASHED
FROG
CULTURE
JAMMING; Its relation To My Work As A Book Artist
War,
Art, and the artist as the recorder of History.
Are the
contemporary pop-up books really that much better than the Victorian ones?
MA
Dissertation Book Arts 2000
THE
TRIAL AND CHANGE AS AN ARTISTIC FORM OF BOOK
2001
Approaches
To Depicting Space
Books as
Objects
A
comment on repeat through artists books and multiples, form and process.
Time and
the Artist
INTRODUCTION
TO DOMESTIC PHILOSOPHY ABOUT ART, AUDIENCE AND THERAPY
on
coming to book arts
Knock!
Knock! Bang! Bang!
Public
Space: Room for Authority or Art?
The
influence of psychological theories on changes in representations of childhood
in art since the Romantic era
‘Focusing
on Studio Practice’
Alice in
Wonderland
Opening
the Text: The Book as a Hypertextual Object
An
investigation into the Context of My Studio Practice
Evaluating
House and Home
The True
Nature of Conservation: Are Conservation Ethics Commensurate with Contemporary
Art Practice?
2002
An
Investigation into the “Disappearance of the Book”
The gap
The efficacy
of the diary format in artists’ book.
Between
Author and Reader exploring the notion of the writerly and readerly within the
work of Susan King and Lygia Clark
Savouring
the recipe book
The
library of unpublished books: From fiction to reality
Visceral
Passage: Reading the Book as Body
In/Outside
Space: The shifting boundary between private and public…how it structures our
homes
Un Coup
de Des: Musique Meditation on a Musigram
Book as
Box : Box as Book
ELUSIVE/ALLUSIVE:
Book Arts and the Undermining of ‘Truth’ and ‘Reality’
A
comparison of, and investigation into, Michael Landy’s break Down (2001) and
Susan Hiller’s After the Freud Museum (1995), with reference to the role of
research within artistic practice as compared to academic models.
2003
The
Precious and the Processed: What are the implications for the status of the art
object and the integrity of the artistic vision within the medium of artist
publishing?
Man,
Earth and Presence: Self-awareness in Floor-like Piece of Work
The
System of (Book) Art
Description
of Life a Users Manual
The
Visible Word Concrete Poetry and Book Arts
Art,
Therapy and the Artist’s Book: Inspiration from Eva Hesse and Lygia Clark
2004
How
could language shape the future?
The
Narratives of the Cabinet of Curiosities in 16th & 17th century
Europe and Contemporary Book Artist Practice
To
receive or not to receive: choice, the gift, and art.
The
Surveillance of Everyday Life: Appropriating City Space/Book Space
The book
as a space within contemporary curating
CLOTHES
ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND
Cultural
shift in relationship to the significance of objects, as seen in British
collections from the sixteenth century to the present day, with particular
reference to the Enlightenment Exhibition at the British Museum, the
Soane Museum and the Saatchi Collection.
The
Visual Power of Language Language Play/Word Play
The
Erotic and the Innocent: The role of the child/adolescent as seen through the
role of Hans Bellmer and Dorothea Tanning
What is
the role of a visual style and media in the development of the content of a
visual book?
Magic
Lantern
How the
Viennese painter Gustav Klimt appropriated motifs from the Archaic Greek Art
period in his paintings and in what way this engagement might have affected his
formation as a mature artist in his career?
RELATING
TO DISEASE: The Narrative Origins of Medical Artists’ Books
How do
the books of Susan Hiller and Joseph Cornell differ in their presentation and
revelation of an inner, emotional journey?
In
relation to my own explorations of an empty three dimensional book space, how
effectively have Rachel Whiteread and Johnathan Callan articulated negative
space and to what extent in terms of the book?
This is
me, this is you: Ubiquity of self
How do
Joseph Cornell and the collaborative artists cris cheek and Kirsten Lavers
(T.N.W.K.) use systems of objects to give a sense of implied narrative?
2005
An
artists’ search for sense of self, time and place, reflected back through the
Mother’s Gaze
Memory
as a vehicle for self-exploration, or a gateway for others?
Revisiting
the Sublime Through Mariele Neudecker and Alison Wilding
Exploration
of inner and outer spaces in book: Through analyzing works of Richard Long and
artist books of Telfer Stroke and Helen Douglas and Michael Snow’s, Cover
to cover and Real Fiction, I will examine the ways of depicting
spaces within book structure and spaces in nature.
When
Craft Is Applied Into Book Art
Through
the exhibition Body Worlds I will examine the relationship between art and
science and the issue of consent in display of the human body within didactic
institutions
Is the
Use of Photography in Documentation of Ephemeral Art Inherently Contradictory?
What
Role Does Freedom play in the work of Joseph Beuys?
Read me,
Seymour! Considering Book Art worthy of analysis as ‘text’.
The
influence of the “Duesseldorfer Schule” of Bernd and Hilla Becher ass seen in
the works of their former students Thomas Struth, Thomas Ruff and Andreas
Gursky.
Art
imitating life, Life imitating art
The
presence of mental anxiety in the artwork of the displaced
Portraying
the Stories: Paula Rego and Illya Kabakov’s visual-storytelling practices in
art context
THE ART
OF NOTATION: THE MUSIC DRAWINGS OF TOM PHILLIPS
2006
Extended
Artist’s Statement: Shaping the Gathered Parts
ON
COLLAGE
THE WAY
OF TELLING A FAMILY AS A ROUTE FOR SEEKING AN IDENTITY
Visual
Approaches of Reading sound and Listening image
Visual
Sequences : speeds of reading
The
Embodied experience of space: Michael Snow’s Cover to cover
The
Container of Fixed Truths
Words of
Comfort The Book As A Fashion Item
Alter-ed
books. Alter-ed narrative? Two Famous Artists compared and an Emerged One takes
her position.
The
Journey in Book Arts
This
paper is an examination of my own practise, compared and contrasted to “The
Sleepers” by Sophie Calle and Martin Newth’s “8 Hours” I intend to explore the
ideas of voyeurism in my work and where my practice stands in relation to book
arts.
2007
FUTURISTS
The roots of the controversies
Where
the Art Lies
Feeling
the book: The book in the digital era
The
promotion of the moral and social development of the child through fairy tales
A Study
on presenting the words on paper structure
The
assumption of casualness and the discovery of intensity
Absence/Presence
MUSICAL
SYNAESTHESIA
How Have
Ideas Of Fiction, Theatre and Literature Influenced Ilya Kabakov’s
Installations; ’10 Characters’, and ‘The Artist’s Despair, of the Conspiracy Of
The Untalented’? How Do These Ideas Relate To His Thoughts On
‘TotalInstallation’ and What Effect Do His Concepts and Techniques Have On My
Own Artistic Practice?
Deconstruction/Construction
HOME
2008
Touching
as reading – When does touch make a reader become the content of a book?-
The book
as a Document – Personal Statement and the audience Exploring the notion of documenting
in Artists’ books and locating their audience by portraying and critically
analyzing ‘Autobiography’ and ‘Break Down Inventory’, works by Sol Lewitt and
Michael Landy respectively.
History
and foresight of public libraries in UK
Shaping
issues of personal verus global feminist issues through evocative memories
within the context of book arts and particularly in consideration of book
structure.
Existence
of Book and Book Art
Semiotic
Guerrilla War
Hunting
Rabbit
What is
the difference between a book and an artist’s book? What I pay special regards
in creating my project?
Migration
The
Aspects of Narration-Narrative relationships with the object.
Through
comparing and contrasting three artists’ books: String Book, Mirror Book and
Killing Book; this essay examins the physical structure and materiality of
books in order to articulate a non-verbal sensational language, which is highly
concerned in my book art practice.
2009
Does
Unconventionality aid or constrict book art, or any form of artwork?
SEEKING
FOR FREEDOM – THE INSTALLATION ARTS OF ESCAPING FROM THE SURFACE
The
transitions of daily life in living spaces andpublic spaces.
A
comparative evaluation and analysis on the works of Sophie Calle, Paul Auster
and Michel DeCerteau in the context of the pedestrian self belonging to the
urban life journey.
How
everyday objects infused with personal/sentimental value are translated into
artworks of public significance.
Future
tense: Steampunk in Contemporary Art and Artists’ Books.
GREEN
WORDS
Using
Heidegger’s ideas on the nature of time and relating them to Keith Smith’s book
91, this paper will investigate book as a form of living art/live experience.
What
would be the aim as an art practitioner by giving value to the collection of
the disposal, the clutter, or the remnants of the ordinary, within the context
of the scarce and the abundant in both Ilya Kabakov’s work The Boat of My Life
and Andy Warhol’s Time Capsules.
MULTISENSORY
INTEGRATION IN INTERACTIVE MEDIA ART: PRACTICE AND EXPLORATIONS WITH INTERACTIVE
MEDIA ARTWORK FOUR SELECTED ARTISTS
By using
both visual and haptic methods I intend to investigate ‘Cover to Cover’ by
Michael Snow and ‘In Between’ by Kate Farley. This paper will compare and look
critically at the ways these artists create visual spatial experiences in their
work.
HOUSE AS
ART Monuments for memory – Vessels for living.
2010
Chance
as an agent in art
To what
extent does Marinetti resolve the apparent paradox in his work of achieving a
spatial and temporal extension which allowed simultaneous communication and
sensation?
Investigating
connections between the objective and subjective systems of classifying found
material, I will be comparing Mark Dion’s ‘Tate Thames Dig’ with Joseph
Cornell’s ‘Planet Sex’ Tete Etoilee, Giuditta Pasta (dedicace), in order to
establish how the ephemeral can become precious.
IN THE
LIGHT, ONE IS AWAKE
Does a
comparison of Walking and Sleeping by Richard Long and Seven Walks London
2004-5 by Francis Alys reveal the differences between urban and rural
walking or merely the difference or similarities between two artists who walk?
Materials
can speak for themselves without words in Book Arts
OUTLINE
OF ROBOTIC AND MOSAIC ART IN EDUARDO PAOLOZZI ARTWORKS CHILDHOOD MEMORIES,
TEXT, FORM AND IMAGE AND THEIR PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL RELATIONSHIPS
Is the
future of comic Books related with that of the book?
“The
availability of touch in art galleries and museums” A study of today’s defined
values and a personal experience from two tactile exhibitions.
Typographic
Expression in Visual and Concrete Poetry How can typography successfully convey
ideas of the text and add expression to printed word in visual/concrete poetry.
Imposed
Passive Participation. By contrasting specific artworks by Susan Hiller and
Sophie Calle I will discuss how personal artefacts are made public in order to
create and develop an intimate relationship between the artwork and the viewer
elicit a personal response and place the viewer into an integral part of the
work as a passive rather than a passive observer.
The Art
of Book Structure – Deconstruction Book Body
THE
IMPORTANCE OF THE ENERGY OF HANDWRITTEN TEXT IN COMMUNICATING EMOTIONS AND
IDEAS IN VISUAL ARTS BY LOOKING AT VAN GOGH’S LETTERS, CY TWOMBLY’S DRAWINGS
AND SOME CONTEMPORARY ARTISTS
2011
What
else besides the body, could physical thinking look like? A discussion of the
intersection between art and dance in response to Catherine Wood’s article The
art of writing with people.
The
book, socially collaborative art.
Reading
in space – at what extent does language control the space that it is placed in
or is that control dictated by the space in which the language sits?
Interpretation
and Categorisation of Fired Books in Book Arts: Three Books by Yohei Nishimura.
Can and
should all art be considered therapeutic to the artist and viewer, and in what
ways can any therapeutic benefits be further exploited?
Destructive
art and auto-destructive in contemporary art is based on the dismantling of
forms to create new forms, Where, then does the value in such art lie?
Five
senses of book
Journey
to the centre. How do contemporary artists use the device of spots and circles
as strategies to individualise elements of graphic culture within their
practice?
In what
ways has the use of language in art changed since the 20th century
movements of Dada and Surrealism, and what is its role in contemporary art?
Silhouette
Art: the aesthetics of concealedness
In what
ways have time and space been expressed by artists in relation to artists
books?
HOW DOES
THE EVERYDAY MANIFEST IN CURRENT ART PRACTICES? TECHNOLOGY, RELATIONAL
AESTHETICS AND THE URBAN LANDSCAPE
Does
fashion blur the boundary of gender or not? – from French fashion to Leigh
Bowery’s Art
In what
ways does the writer Vladimir Nabakov and artist Joseph Cornell approach the
challenge of rendering desire in their works?
Might
consideration of the artists’ book prove fruitful when considering the
evolution of other topics, for example happiness?
Is the
repetition of daily life really boring and meaningless? Which artists convince
us the repetition is both enjoyable and therapeutic?
2012
Blank
But Not Empty: The hidden information of the Blank
Difficulty
of dealing with personal Memories; The gap between Hiding and Sharing
The page
transition in inkless books of two artists (Ronald King & Keith A. Smith)
Cultural
transmission & importance of ancient books study case sutra of Mountain and
Sea case
HOW
REBECCA HORN AND LIN TIANMIAO, REVEAL THEIR FEELINGS OF BEING BOUNDED UNDER THE
TOTAL DIFFERENT CULTURE?
What is
the use of repetition communication in the works of Kusama and Warhol, and
What’s the difference between communication of their works?
How does
the photography worth of Helen Douglas and Michael Snow build narrative without
text?
How do
some artists’ books of Ken Leslie, Mette-Sofie D. Ambeck and Ronald King
express thinking of Samsara
The
Imagined Reading Machine: In Bob Brown’s printed experiments in optical
reading, does the reader become the Reading Machine?
Representation
of weeds in the works of the artists, Kim Beck I Tracey Bush I Beverly Penn I
John Dilnot.
The
relationship between the structure and content in three artists’ books (A Maze
in Book, Out of Sight, Daily Mirror)
ARTISTS’
TRAVEL BOOKS AND THE READERS AS TRAVELLERS How do artists manage to create
journalistic travel book artworks with elements for reflecting both personal
impression and objective awareness of the destination?
Interactive
Aesthetic Experiences in Food-related Arts
Search
for a reform consumer society
Can Tom
Phillips’ ongoing art work A Humument provide us with clues as to the
conceptual form of books in the future?
The
Renaissance of Writing
Between
mark and script: ambiguity
Healing
the fabric of the universe : an imaginal approach to arts practice through the
works of Atsushi Takenouchi and Louise Kenward.
How
might the book function as a transformational object? Can the theories of D. W.
Winnicott and Christopher Bollas help to determine the use of the book as a
transformational object in works by Graham Rawle and Henry Darger.
2013
Material
in book arts: exploring the relation between material and the body of artist
books
Repetition in Artists' Books
How have the foundations of Collage influenced the Assemblage of Book Art?
Variable readings: A throw of the dice will never abolish chance.
"How frame and time work as a tool to depict the landscape"
FORGETFUL
MEMORY, UNREADABLE BOOKS.
Diary as
Art: exploring Dieter Roth’s diary works in relation to Fluxus
How are
the formal and structural elements of the comic book utilised by creator and
reader in the construction of time?
The
interplay of movement and bookstructure: movements interplay with book
structures in relation to readers by comparing Ed Rusha’s Every Building on the
building on the Sunset Strip and Stephanie Ognar’s Flip Book Bath
The
Physically of the Book, The Richness of Reading Experience
How the
content of Keith Smith’s Snow Job and Susan King’s Lessons from
the South are enriched by creating the text’s visual form on typography
and book structure
Quality
abstract in photography exploring the photos in Paris shot by William Eggleston
regarding the notion of Geometric abstract painting
Memory
and Memorial – an evaluation of their relationship with the textile object.
Paper
Fanzines: Nostalgia for Golden Ages of Rock Music, or a Quest for Authenticity?
What drives modern music fan to reach for increasingly obsolete tangible media
forms?
How are
the issues of ‘place, voice and subject’ more successfully communicated in Get
Here (Imogen Stidworthy, 2006) through focusing on the participatory nature of
the work?
How does
the inclusion of text add to the narrative dimensions of photography? Looking
at the work of Clarissa Sligh, Duane Michals and Shirin Neshat.
Marching
Backwards into the future. Or why does McLuhan, Flore and Agels’s The
medium is the massagefeel so now?
2014
The
implication of Conceptual Art in books – Is a book could be a tool to convey
the concepts as an art form to bridge artists and viewers
Examining
spiritual experience as the purpose and function of art: Tracing numinous in
the work of James Turrell and Giuseppe Penone
The
relationship between artworks and environmental protection – How artwork as a
tool to remind people of the environmental issues
‘Faceless
self-portrait’
The
possibility of book to represent place
How the
places could change artworks display?
2014
How are
the different interpretations of place and memory reflected in the imagery,
design and structure of two different artists' books?
THE ART
OF NOTATION: THE MUSIC DRAWINGS OF TOM PHILLIPS
Image:
consciousness and bliss A play of Visual Perception and Meanings
THE
INVISIBLE BOOKPRINT
How book
artists represent memory of a place and how these memories are translated to
communicate with the readers
Eastern
Art Philosophies Influencing John Cage and Western art Influencing Huang
Yongping Xu Bing: representing the characteristics of their time or acts of
imitation
The work
of Seance: How materiality affects absence in translation in Anne Carson's Nox
and Christian Hawkey's Ventrakl
How do
Kenneth Goldsmith and Simon Morris use compositional strategies of copying to
produce new works within the context of a digital age?
2015
Nothing
Matters: Situating the Audiences' Experience of Katrina Palmer's 2015 Artangel
Commission on Portland
Behind
the Line Comparing and contrasting approaches to Mathematics applied in the
work of Agnes Martin and Cam Wong
What are
the different aspects of Interactive arts, and is it still possible for
artworks to be interactive without the use of technology?
RESPECT
TO NATURE A brief analysis of land artists' Natural consciousness - take Andy
Goldsworthy and Richard Long as example
Haptic
Communication of Imagination and Reality
Toys of
Imagination: Exploring Joseph Cornell's artwork in relation to appropriation
and the arrangement of collecting material imaginative interact with viewer
Mapping
in the work of Victoria Brown, Zero Per Zero and Becky Cooper
Impermanence
in the work of Helen Chadwick, James Turrell and Olafur Eliasson
Nothing,
yet everything
An
analysis of lines and lines movements, using ideas in Ingold's book on the line
and relating it to Keith Smith's 'Book 91'and Sol Lewitt's book Circles &
Grids' and how they explore this idea.
Reading
in space, using the books as materials -Exploring Brian Dettmer, Georgia
Russell and Guy Laramee's works.
Deconstructing
Physical and Metaphysical Space: A structural investigation into humanistic
metaphors applied to the use of Deconstructivist language within the spacial
arts of Daniel Libeskind
2016
Compressing
Multi-Dimensional Narrative into Two-Dimensional Plane: An Analysis of how
time, space and movements have been illustrated into plane canvas by modern
artist.
What can
the use of Synesthesia in the work of Rachel Morris & Terri Timely tell us
about the future of physical books?
How do
the works of Richard Long and Hamish Fulton differ in the way that they
replicate the experience of the natural world within the context of an art
gallery?
CAN THE
DOMINANT ART WORLD ENGAGE IN 'SOCIAL SCULPTING' AS A CRITICAL METHODOLOGY FOR
ITS INTEGRATION IN THE SUSTAINABLE MOVEMENT? extracting effective strategies
from artists Crawford & Cross and David Cross' work
Could
photography be used as a tool to help improve memory and repress development of
the disease dementia
The
potential of space and its accessibility to the public
The
Space in the Fold and Folding
How the
Use of Thread Helps Artists Enhance Their Projects' Narratives
How does
redaction increase reader participation in creating meaning? a comparison of
reworkings of: Un coup de Des Jamais N'abolira Le Hazard and
John McDowalls MASK.
2017
What is
the relationship between text and page in the bookworks of Thomas A Clark?
Unconventional
approaches to magazine editing - The role of two avant-garde magazines, 0
to 9 and Decoll/age in the 1960's -
A
discussion of the coexistence of humans and surveillance, through the study of
surveillance artworks.
Shhhh!:
Investigating Bob Cobbing's Whisper Piece and the impact it had on
the Artist's Subsequent Practice.Time as the subject of the artwork: Exploring the connection between
time and artwork about time.
Found
Objects in Sophie Calle's Works and the Building of Narrative Behind Them
In what
way does the work of Jenny Holzer, Young-hae Chang Heavy Industries and Barbara
Kruger disrupt reading habits and spaces within a specific medium and or place,
making use of the medium's intrinsic meaning, and promote critical reading and
thinking?
HOW BOOK
AND PERFORMANCE ARE PRESENTED IN RELATION TO EACH OTHER, AND WHAT IS THE IMPACT
ON THE AUDIENCE OF DOING THIS?
2018
How does
the Materiality of the Artist's Book Help to Augment an Understanding With
Respect to Creating a Narrative About Memory and Identity?
The
Separated Hand Comparing and contrasting how the principles of sign
language and gesture have been used to create narrative and meaning in
Propaganda Posters, the works of Wanda Bernardino and online advertiser/content
creator, Gelcream
Between
art and erotic: A Visual analysis of homosexual publications based on Queer
Theory
Weaving
Words Give some examples of the ways in which weaving has influenced the
English language.
Optical
Illusion
Investigating
successful models of collaboration in the UK's art publishing activity.
How has
control of process and outcome been given away from author to the audience in
the contemporary book art?
Contradictory
Thread
Misery
as an inspiration for the creation of art Comparing and Contrasting the work of
Tracey Emin and Louise Bourgeois
2019
Artist's
Sanctuaries
How far have
Collaborative Networks between Artists Succeeded in Undermining Censorship and
Commodification of Art in Literature and Publishing?
Art and Memory
How memory
influences the artistic experience of the audience
How have artists used their experience of
physical trauma and Long term recovery to expand development of their art
practices.
In what way
was an identity created for Irish women through Celtic Revival art in the first
half of the 20th Century?
Explore whether artists can use the
process of creating art to reduce the pain of illness
CRAVING
INTIMACY: The diary
How does the
book form renegotiates the theme of intimacy?
How does book
as creative space change person's understanding of the content?
Lost and Found
Language in Visual Poetry To what Extent does Visual Poetry use Code-Switching
to Engage Multiple Sensory Modalities of Interaction in the work of Caroline
Bergvall and Lind Nordenstrom?
